McCain to Torture, "I hate you, but I need you."
AZ Senator, Presidential hopeful and former torture victim John McCain has come out repeatedly against the US' involvement in torture. This, more than any other issue has helped me not only get comfortable with him, but put him on the path to winning my vote. Long time readers (Hi Ma!) know that I abhor this practice, its a stain on our great nations honor, period.
In an election with lots of noise, pro-torture/anti-torture is one issue where there is no doubt that the President can act, and I think elections are about what a President can actually do. Call me silly.
So when the Senate took up a bill that would require that the CIA conform to the rules in the Army's field manual for interrogations, I thought, this is one good moment.
However, I was completely shocked (but fortunately not that kind of shocked) when Sen McCain voted against this bill. So it was right then that John McCain lost me for good. Why, you ask, did he vote against this bill? According to his rep, who said
that his vote does not mean the senator endorses any of these tactics. Instead, the aide said, there are noncoercive interrogation techniques not used by the Army that could be useful to the CIA. The aide declined to provide an example, but said it made sense for the CIA to use tactics that are not widely known through the field manual, which is a public document.The great thing about not having much honor is that its really easy to hide it behind feeble words.
The good news is that its a Presidential Election so I can just read the article to see where his opponents stand.
Says Sen Obama,
I have been consistent in my strong belief that no Administration should allow the use of torture, including so-called 'enhanced interrogation techniques' like water-boarding, head-slapping, and extreme temperatures. It's time that we had a Department of Justice that upholds the rule of law and American values, instead of finding ways to enable the President to subvert them. No more political parsing or legal loopholes. I cannot support Judge Mukasey unless he clearly and unequivocally rejects techniques like water-boarding.Ooooh, that's strong. I like that. Especially the whole "no Administration should allow the use of torture" part. So now I can mark down that President Obama would act against torture. Excellent. Hmmm, but he's not President Obama yet. I wonder what Senator Obama would do. Uh oh, it looks like Senator Obama is trying to becoming President Obama and neglected to vote. To recap, President Obama would not allow torture and is sick of "political parsing and legal loopholes" but Senator Obama, in a position to close a gaping version of said loophole, couldn't be bothered to vote. I think I like President Obama much better than Senator Obama.
What about Sen Clinton?
As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period.Again, last I checked, the Senate plays a fairly large role in determining "American policy." Unless you have better things to do I guess, because she too, neglected to vote.
Look, I get that these two are running for President. I also get that they don't care nearly as much as I do about this particular issue. But Sen McCain dragged his butt to DC to sell his soul (again) to vote against a bill banning torture by the CIA, why couldn't these two do the same to show how they felt about this issue? Why? Well its becoming more and more obvious. The GOP is willing to take a stand, even if its terrible. The Democrats aren't willing to do anything that may "rock the boat" no matter how terrible the rocking.
So my choice is between a party that is willing to take stands on issues I completely disagree with them about, or a party that is filled with people who say the right things but are afraid to take any kind of stand. Awesome.
Honestly, I've held my nose every time I've ever voted in a Presidential election. Every time. This may be the year that I just go to the park and enjoy some fresh air.
PS. This great OPED about torture by Morris Davis former chief prosecutor for the military commissions at Guantánamo (and obvious hippy America hater) was just submitted by a long time reader. Mr Davis is clearly more eloquent than I, as evidenced by the great line,
Virtues requiring caveats are not virtues.Yup. Please read the article.
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Our use of torture for short-sighted political or military expediency is perhaps the greatest threat to the values, principles and safety of our great nation. There can be no equivocation. We either use torture or we do not. To allow any agency of our govenment to use torture under any circumstances should never be permitted or condoned. No exceptions.
There are huge unintended consequences to allowing torture or testimony obtained thru torture. If we execute people based on torture confessions, what does that say about us?
Using torture not only puts our boys and girls at risk of being tortured in future conflicts, but may lead to greater casualties and longer, bloodier conflicts.
My father fought in the Pacific in
WWII and was horrified when Japanese soldiers refused to surrender because they were told they would be humiliated and tortured by U.S. troops. Even though his troops pleaded with the Japanese to surrender, most kept fighting long after the battles were hopeless, resulting in many more U.S. casualties. Innocent civilians killed themselves en masse rather than surrender to our GI's because thay too had been lied to about our use of humiliation and torture. Now it is not a lie. On the European front, tens of thousands of German soldiers laid down their arms and walked many miles to surrender to U.S. troops because they knew they would be treated humanely. Conversely, the Russians took many extra casualties because the Germans knew they and their families would be mistreated.
Thousands of Iraqi troops happily laid down their arms and surrendered in both recent Gulf conflicts. Will that happen in the next conflict?
We must condemn not only the abuses at Abu Ghraib, but we must also make it absolutely clear that we condemn the use of torture at Guantanamo, in the secret prisons or rendition countries or anywhere else, by anyone, for any reason.
The long term safety, security and identity of our nation depends on it.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...." - Fredrich Nietzsche
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