Someone Defend This Guy
I'd love to go to a pep rally run by Senator Murtha. How inspiring it would be to hear him describe how our team would mop the floor with that other team...if only they weren't broken and worn out.
It is completely reasonable to say that our approach to Iraq needs to be improved. It is completely irresponsible to say that our military has been rendered inept by current bad polices. I guess when your Murtha and you spend a week in the glow of constant media praise and attention it emboldens you make a bigger fool of yourself than you might otherwise.
And for those who might mistake Mr. Murtha for an informed gadfly please answer me why this "broken and worn out" military remains the strongest proponent of President Bush and his Iraq policies? How can it be that an old man in the safety of Washington knows better of a war effort than the men and women fighting it? This man is a joke...a sad and pathetic joke.
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I agree that he overstated. Our military is not broken down. I do think its been hamstrung by bad political decisions. Decisions that often overruled military requests and doctrine. I also think that the military is tired. While a tired US military is superior to any on earth, and the men and women will not allow that as an excuse, I believe it is, none the less, true.
So I think he overstated his case for the sake of making a stronger statement he hoped would resonate better. He went for the sound-bite. He's not the first to do that, every politician and political speaker does, including Bush, Franken, Limbaugh, Moore, me, and you. But not M3k, he's dreamy.
But I have to say, for someone who bristles so strongly on any personal attacks on Bush you sure went personal on this guy, real fast.
It has been awhile since I have responded to this site, but I must start. "A sad and pathetic joke" certainly would do it! Although I dont completely agree with SM and his thoughts, I would not call him a sad and pathetic joke.
This man does offer some credibility. He has respectfully served and has some military expertise to offer an insightful opinion. His idea of jumping ship is hasty and, probably, more emotional in reaction than rational. But his opinions certainly dont make him sad and pathetic. We live in a free press society. He made his statements. So be it. Does it undermine the war effort? Perhaps. But sad and pathetic...he is not.
Mr. Malone save your unruly adjectives for someone else and some other time. I can think many other Dems worthy of those adjectives, but Murtha is not one of them.
I agree with UBLo, Murtha overstated so his message would resonate better. This means that during a time of war he called our troops "broken and worn out" simply so he could get some political play. If that is not "sad and pathetic", nothing is. I stand firmly by my statemtents.
Just so I understand. Is anyone who overstates a position during a time of war "sad and pathetic?" What about during peace time? Can you do it then without being "sad and pathetic?"
I find demagogery to be particularly ugly during serious things like war. Politics in general are not serious. "Silent Crisis" are spoken of in an attempt to make something out of nothing. When Ted Kennedy accuses Republicans of starving people because they reduce school lunch costs, that is not serious. That is baffoonery. But war is not so trivial as school lunch spending. Therefore, when an American leader sends a message to our troops and their enemies that the troops are weak and he does it for political gain, that is pathetic.
Now, perhaps he had other motives. But I made my statement because you agreed that he exaggerated for political gain. So, I'm proceeding with that assumption.
So is it equally wrong to say things like "mission accomplshed" and "the insurgency is in its last throes." Or in the time leading up to the war when Cheney said those that questioned the President were aiding terrorists?
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